Zitat:“When the guys test for the steroids, they should have no more fights. When you use the steroids, you use them for a long time. When you use the steroids for a long time, you have a problem. It's a drug and it's not good for the sport.

PED failures…this is bad for the sport. People around the world love the UFC, but the kids love the UFC, and the families love UFC. It's bad for the sport. I don't think this is good because the sport can change the lives of the kids and the people in the world.

When the guys test for the steroids, it's bad because this is a problem. It's bad not just for the UFC, but for the sport. It’s sad for the sport, I think it was an unsportsmanlike attitude. But the commissions will take care of this and I hope this serves as an example to other athletes as well.”

Zitat:“I was shocked, but I mean it’s been like ten years now that I’ve been shocked. I think we were the only sport that actually allowed athletes to actually do steroids legally, and I don’t even know what that was about. But yeah I mean it appears like the new generation is just, you know thrown the rules aside, make your money. You know the idea of sort of living by the rules and honour and respect have kinda been tossed out the window. I don’t even know what to say about it 'cause, I mean back in the day - which I realize has been some time now - you know it was about the game, and it was about winning the game, and the rules. You know finding a way, finding the solution, finding the shot, finding the technique, finding the position. And now it seems like it’s about something else. It’s about the gimmick, the drug, the thing. And it’s like, the sad part is, I can’t turn it on for my daughter. You know? I can’t share with her the sport that I’ve built. Because it’s like, she’s like "ok I don’t understand. He’s on drugs?". Like I can’t even explain it. And that to me, that concerns me because this is supposed to be martial arts. This is supposed to be how we lead a generation as sports heroes, and I can’t even turn it on for my daughter. That part, it just blows me away. It just blows me away.”

Zitat:“It’s always been there, but now the culture is like, it’s better to get caught than 'X'. So it’s just different now. Before it’s like, you went down that path, that was a choice, you were a cheater, you were bending the limits. And I didn’t mind fighting those guys 'cause they were never in the right state of mind. They were never focused, and chi'd out, and had a martial vision because they were on something else. So I didn’t mind it and I thought it was a benefit going into a fight; like when I fought Baroni, when I fought giant dudes. I was like "yeah let 'em be all crazy and out of their minds, and also nervous". Because if you’re not putting in the time at the gym and you need a tool like that, then you know it. You know it in your heart and soul. So for me it’s just like, it’s a personal choice. And now I think the personal choice is too easy to make, you know and nothing’s going to happen to these guys. They're going to make millions of dollars and be like "Yep sorry. Sorry fans, I’ve led you astray". Like dude that’s not what it’s supposed to be about. You know Michael Jordan didn’t do that stuff. If we want to be taken seriously in this sport, we need hero’s that stand above and beyond. And it's like until we get that, we're going to be the guys fighting in the cage in our dang spandex.”

Zitat:“Sadly probably no. That may be the worst part. It’s now so common and so 'oh gosh, there it is'. You know people think that’s what our sport is about. People think we're a bunch of dudes on steroids, with tattoos, fighting in a cage. And I was at congress speaking about this 10 to 15 years ago, going "we’re not these people", but somehow we’re those people. Like that’s what our culture is producing, and I just I don’t see an end to it. I don’t how we stop it. You know, I don’t. How do you say to Anderson Silva "look you’re in the wrong on this one"? Because it’s now, it’s indicative of our culture. This is what they do, this is what we do. Jon Jones does cocaine, Anderson Silva does etcetera. It’s like what? Really? You know I came from a school where you train hard in martial arts, you follow the rules, you study the rule book, and you found a way to win. You know, at whatever cost. And it’s like those days are done.”

Zitat:“[laughs] I mean I just think it’s sad that that is the future generation, that Nick Diaz is the future. There’s a million kids going "I want to be like Nick" and it’s like, you don’t want to be like Nick. I just don't think there’s any forethought to it, you know? But I came up as a martial artist, and it may have been accidental, I may have accidently been dragged down, or pushed down, or guided down the martial arts path, but at the end of the journey, or in the middle of the journey, however you want to look at it, I can see what works and what doesn’t. And the minute you sell your soul, the minute you do steroids, the minute you break the rules in such a way that you can’t come back, it’s like then it just changes who you are, and your fan base, and your everything changes. It’s like, now the whole generation has changed. And the craziest thing was - I mean I felt it when I was fighting Tito Ortiz - I could feel that they wanted him to win, and that was in 1999. Because he was a bad boy. He was the 'this' guy he, was the 'that' guy, he was the 'flipper-offer' guy. I could feel it. I was like "wow this is, you know what an amazing weird feeling that they want this perception of a bad person to win". And then when I fought Nick Diaz I felt it in the first minute. They were like "Yeah, yeah, yeah, Frank's old. We need to get rid of him. We like this guy, but the public perception is what the society is looking for right now" and right now it’s ok to do drugs, it’s ok to do steroids, it’s ok to do this or that. It’s perfectly ok. And we’re the sport that says it’s ok. And it’s like, at the end of the day that just saddens me. You know 'cause that’s not what I’m teaching my children, and that’s not what I was taught, and that’s not what I believe.”

Zitat:“The UFC and MMA in general is a steroid epidemic. They’ve started this really stringent testing, and everybody is getting popped. They’re just getting popped left and right. It’s one of the things fighters have been saying for a long time, that everyone is on steroids, or a huge percentage. The number (is) 50, 60 (percent), whatever it is.

Fighters will sometimes train three times a day. Maybe they’ll run, do sprints in the morning, and then they’ll do some kind of strength and conditioning in the afternoon. Then they’ll do wrestling or jiu-jitsu at night. Then they’ll vary. The next day they might do kickboxing in the morning and running in the afternoon, then weight lifting at night. But you’re talking about working out three times in a day because you have all these different skills you have to work on.

“You have to work on your wrestling, kickboxing, jiu-jitsu. There’s not enough time in the day, and there’s not enough time to recover. So that’s when comes in Dr. Feelgood. He comes along, and bang.

Anderson was coming back from an injury, and the way I understand it, he tested positive for metabolites. It was leaving his system, a very trace amount. If that was the case, it could be that he got on some steroids to recover quicker. Because what steroids do, is they allow you to recover quicker.

So if he’s 39 years old and he breaks his leg, you’re looking at a long-ass recovery period. Or you take steroids and you recover in nine months instead of 15 months or fill in the blank. That could be what’s going on, but the reality is it’s illegal. If it takes you 15 months, the excuse cannot be, ‘I’m going to take some illegal drugs so I heal quicker.’ No, you’re never allowed to take steroids.

The reality is, especially with this whole steroid epidemic, one thing we have to realize is the use of steroids is less than 100 years old. There’s always been something people have taken, but the actual use of anabolic steroids in human beings is relatively recent in human history. As time goes on, they’re going to create more powerful, crazy sh-t, and it’s going to get to the point where you’re going to test negative because it’s not in your system anymore, but your body will forever change.”

Zitat:“It screwed me up for a few days. I was messed up for a few days after that. I’ve been a huge Anderson Silva fan, too. But we’ll talk about that on Wednesday.We’re not going to be talking about fun things. We’ll address all the things that have happened lately, and what we’re going to do, and what’s going to happen from here on out.”