TNM7 Turnier (Finale online)

[RDLA]

Bäh! :9

Dann sollen sich beide eben denken, dass Nef mit 2:1 gewonnen hat!

[DiViNo]

gibts auch ne verliererrunde?

so die beiden 3. spiel um platz 5 ...

oder wa?

[White Unicorn]

Original von RDLA
Bäh! :9

Dann sollen sich beide eben denken, dass Nef mit 2:1 gewonnen hat!

Schatz, könntest Du das bitte auch bei Deinem Posting mit den Ergebnissen vom 4. Spieltag hinzufügen? :rolli: Aber nur, wenn es Dir keine Umstände macht! ;)
Danke! :9

[RDLA]

Spieltag 5 – Die Entscheidung in den Gruppen

RDLA – Slash 3:0 Matches 13:4 Falls

Iron Man Match:
Hiroshi Tanahashi beat Kurt Angle 7 falls to 1:
x Tanahashi beat K. Angle via the German Suplex in 0:08:52
x Tanahashi beat K. Angle via a figure-four leglock in 0:10:26
x Tanahashi beat K. Angle via a Northern Lights suplex in 0:13:35
x Tanahashi beat K. Angle via disqualification in 0:14:00
x Tanahashi beat K. Angle via the German Suplex in 0:16:21
x Tanahashi beat K. Angle via the German Suplex in 0:23:02
x K. Angle beat Tanahashi via an inside cradle in 0:27:15
x Tanahashi beat K. Angle via a figure-four leglock in 0:28:42
x time limit expired (Tanahashi and K. Angle) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 3/4

Iron Man Match:
Shinjiro Ohtani beat Christopher Daniels 4 falls to 3:
x Ohtani beat Daniels via the Spiral Bomb in 0:11:43
x Ohtani beat Daniels via the Spiral Bomb in 0:12:18
x Ohtani beat Daniels via the Spiral Bomb in 0:14:32
x Daniels beat Ohtani via a small package in 0:20:04
x Daniels beat Ohtani via a moonsault from the second turnbuckle in
0:21:15
x Ohtani beat Daniels via the Spiral Bomb in 0:25:03
x Daniels beat Ohtani via a backdrop driver in 0:29:48
x time limit expired (Ohtani and Daniels) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/4

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match:
Hiroshi Tanahashi and Shinjiro Ohtani beat Kurt Angle and Christopher Daniels 2
falls to 0:
x Tanahashi beat K. Angle via the German Suplex in 0:02:59
x Tanahashi beat Daniels via the German Suplex in 0:08:14
Rating: *** 3/4



Chokeslam – Mephisto 1:2 6 : 9

Iron Man Match:
Triple H beat Dean Malenko 5 falls to 2:
x D. Malenko beat Triple H via a Northern Lights suplex in 0:13:17
x Triple H beat D. Malenko via the Pedigree in 0:17:30
x Triple H beat D. Malenko via the Pedigree in 0:20:35
x Triple H beat D. Malenko via the Pedigree in 0:26:52
x D. Malenko beat Triple H via disqualification in 0:27:14
x Triple H beat D. Malenko via the Pedigree in 0:27:53
x Triple H beat D. Malenko via the Pedigree in 0:28:20
x time limit expired (D. Malenko and Triple H) in 0:30:00
Rating: **

Iron Man Match:
Kid Kash beat Bret Hart 4 falls to 2:
x B. Hart beat Kash via countout in 0:00:45
x B. Hart beat Kash via an elbowdrop from the second turnbuckle in
0:10:26
x Kash beat B. Hart via the Money In The Bank in 0:14:17
x Kash beat B. Hart via the Money In The Bank in 0:18:10
x Kash beat B. Hart via the Money In The Bank in 0:24:18
x Kash beat B. Hart via the Money In The Bank in 0:27:56
x time limit expired (Kash and B. Hart) in 0:30:00
Rating: ****

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match:
Dean Malenko and Bret Hart beat Kid Kash and Triple H 2 falls to 0:
x B. Hart beat Triple H via disqualification in 0:01:38
x B. Hart beat Triple H via an elbowdrop from the second turnbuckle in 0:02:28
Rating: ** 3/4



Sharkboy – White Unicorn 3:0 11:6

Iron Man Match:
Chris Hero beat The Rock 4 falls to 2:
x The Rock beat Hero via disqualification in 0:03:49
x Hero beat The Rock via the Ocean Cyclone Suplex in 0:04:11
x Hero beat The Rock via the Hero's Welcome in 0:17:06
x Hero beat The Rock via the Hero's Welcome in 0:21:21
x The Rock beat Hero via disqualification in 0:24:58
x Hero beat The Rock via a German suplex in 0:28:53
x time limit expired (The Rock and Hero) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/4

Iron Man Match:
Super Dragon beat Rene Dupree 5 falls to 3:
x R. Dupree beat S. Dragon via pinfall in 0:06:27
x S. Dragon beat R. Dupree via the 450 Splash in 0:09:35
x R. Dupree beat S. Dragon via countout in 0:11:58
x R. Dupree beat S. Dragon via the French Riviera in 0:17:29
x S. Dragon beat R. Dupree via the 450 Splash in 0:22:44
x S. Dragon beat R. Dupree via disqualification in 0:23:25
x S. Dragon beat R. Dupree via the 450 Splash in 0:26:37
x S. Dragon beat R. Dupree via a ropeflip moonsault in 0:29:03
x time limit expired (S. Dragon and R. Dupree) in 0:30:00
Rating: ***

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match:
Chris Hero and Super Dragon beat The Rock and Rene Dupree 2 falls to 1:
x Hero beat R. Dupree via the Hero's Welcome in 0:02:00
x The Rock beat S. Dragon via the Rock Bottom in 0:13:18
x Hero beat R. Dupree via a crucifix in 0:22:25
Rating: *** 1/4



Nefercheperur – Snowder 1:2 3 : 8

Iron Man Match:
Lou Thesz beat Steve Austin 3 falls to 0:
x Thesz beat S. Austin via a brain buster in 0:11:59
x Thesz beat S. Austin via disqualification in 0:14:34
x Thesz beat S. Austin via a snap mare in 0:28:00
x time limit expired (Thesz and S. Austin) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 3/4

Iron Man Match:
The Undertaker beat Osamu Nishimura 6 falls to 0:
x Undertaker beat Nishimura via the Last Ride in 0:12:07
x Undertaker beat Nishimura via the Last Ride in 0:13:06
x Undertaker beat Nishimura via a powerslam in 0:15:25
x Undertaker beat Nishimura via a stomp in 0:15:46
x Undertaker beat Nishimura via the Last Ride in 0:18:42
x Undertaker beat Nishimura via the Last Ride in 0:27:21
x time limit expired (Undertaker and Nishimura) in 0:30:00
Rating: **

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match:
Steve Austin and The Undertaker beat Lou Thesz and Osamu Nishimura 2 falls to 0:
x Undertaker beat Nishimura via a powerslam in 0:02:47
x Undertaker beat Thesz via the Last Ride in 0:08:45
Rating: ** 3/4

Die Abschlußtabellen:

Gruppe A
1.Mephisto 10 Punkte 10:5 Matches 37:24 Falls
2.RDLA 7 9:6 35:21
3.Slash 6 5:8 17:33
4.Psycho 5 6:6 22:17
5.Chokeslam 0 4:10 16:29

Gruppe B
1.Snowder 12 9:3 28:12
2.Sharkboy 6 6:6 31:33
3.White Unicorn 6 6:6 23:24
4.Nefercheperur 3 5:7 22:29
5.Hitman 3 4:8 23:29


Damit kommt es im Halbfinale zu folgenden Begegnungen:
Mephisto vs. Sharkboy
Snowder vs. RDLA

[Sharkboy]

WOW das nennt man wohl glück :klatscher:

[Slash]

Original von RDLA

RDLA – Slash 3:0 Matches 13:4 Falls

Arrghh....Betrug!! :boxer:

;)

[White Unicorn]

Neeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiin, ich bin nicht weiter! :bigcry:

[RDLA]

Bevor es morgen die Halbfinals gibt, zuerst die Ergebnisse der Platzierungsmatches:

Um Platz 9:
Chokeslam vs. Hitman 3:3 15:15


Iron Man Match:
Chris Jericho beat Dean Malenko 4 falls to 3:
x Jericho beat D. Malenko via a Fujiwara armbar in 0:03:41
x D. Malenko beat Jericho via a Northern Lights suplex in 0:09:16
x D. Malenko beat Jericho via countout in 0:10:47
x Jericho beat D. Malenko via a powerslam in 0:14:23
x Jericho beat D. Malenko via a crucifix in 0:19:09
x Jericho beat D. Malenko via a powerslam in 0:22:10
x D. Malenko beat Jericho via a Northern Lights suplex in 0:26:42
x time limit expired (D. Malenko and Jericho) in 0:30:00
Rating: ***

Iron Man Match:
CM Punk drew Bret Hart:
x Punk beat B. Hart via the Pepsi Plunge in 0:10:19
x Punk beat B. Hart via a flying cross body press in 0:16:44
x B. Hart beat Punk via the Sharpshooter in 0:19:33
x Punk beat B. Hart via a pumphandle tombstone in 0:22:59
x B. Hart beat Punk via an elbowdrop from the second turnbuckle in
0:25:49
x B. Hart beat Punk via an elbowdrop from the second turnbuckle in
0:29:45
x time limit expired (Punk and B. Hart) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/2

Iron Man Match:
Dean Malenko beat CM Punk 4 falls to 3:
x D. Malenko beat Punk via the Texas Cloverleaf in 0:05:36
x Punk beat D. Malenko via a small package in 0:09:03
x D. Malenko beat Punk via leg scissors in 0:11:53
x Punk beat D. Malenko via the Pepsi Plunge in 0:14:49
x D. Malenko beat Punk via a German suplex in 0:21:43
x Punk beat D. Malenko via a flying cross body press in 0:24:00
x D. Malenko beat Punk via a kneebar in 0:28:57
x time limit expired (D. Malenko and Punk) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/4

Iron Man Match:
Bret Hart beat Chris Jericho 5 falls to 3:
x B. Hart beat Jericho via disqualification in 0:04:02
x B. Hart beat Jericho via an elbowdrop from the second turnbuckle in
0:06:09
x Jericho beat B. Hart via a powerslam in 0:11:18
x B. Hart beat Jericho via an elbowdrop from the second turnbuckle in
0:12:13
x B. Hart beat Jericho via the Sharpshooter in 0:14:53
x Jericho beat B. Hart via the Walls Of Jericho in 0:20:14
x B. Hart beat Jericho via a power bomb in 0:27:34
x Jericho beat B. Hart via a spinning leg lariat in 0:28:51
x time limit expired (Jericho and B. Hart) in 0:30:00
Rating: ****

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match:
Chris Jericho and CM Punk beat Dean Malenko and Bret Hart 2 falls to 0:
x Punk beat B. Hart via a flying cross body press in 0:05:11
x Jericho beat D. Malenko via the Walls Of Jericho in 0:10:47
Rating: ****

Wegen des Unentschiedens kommt es zu einem Elimination Tag Team Match der beiden:

Elimination Iron Man Match:
Dean Malenko and Bret Hart beat Chris Jericho and CM Punk 2 falls to 1:
x D. Malenko beat Jericho via a waistlock suplex in 0:20:06
x Punk beat D. Malenko via the Pepsi Plunge in 0:21:59
x B. Hart beat Punk via a Northern Lights suplex in 0:26:33
Survivors: Bret Hart
Rating: *** 1/4

Damit entschied Chokeslam dieses Match für sich und ist 9.



Um Platz 7:
Psycho vs. Nefercheperur 2:5 9:14

Iron Man Match:
Chris Benoit drew Lou Thesz:
x Thesz beat Benoit via the Spinning Toe Hold in 0:09:32
x Benoit beat Thesz via a figure-four leglock in 0:10:32
x Thesz beat Benoit via the Spinning Toe Hold in 0:19:48
x Benoit beat Thesz via the Crippler Crossface in 0:26:07
x time limit expired (Benoit and Thesz) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 3/4

Iron Man Match:
Osamu Nishimura beat Brock Lesnar 4 falls to 1:
x Nishimura beat Lesnar via the Northern Lights Suplex in 0:16:22
x Nishimura beat Lesnar via a roundhouse kick in 0:18:27
x Lesnar beat Nishimura via disqualification in 0:19:03
x Nishimura beat Lesnar via the Northern Lights Suplex in 0:23:40
x Nishimura beat Lesnar via the Northern Lights Suplex in 0:25:45
x time limit expired (Lesnar and Nishimura) in 0:30:00
Rating: ***

Iron Man Match:
Brock Lesnar drew Lou Thesz:
x Lesnar beat Thesz via the F-5 in 0:06:02
x Thesz beat Lesnar via the Spinning Toe Hold in 0:11:17
x Lesnar beat Thesz via the F-5 in 0:13:35
x Thesz beat Lesnar via the Spinning Toe Hold in 0:18:11
x Thesz beat Lesnar via disqualification in 0:20:53
x Lesnar beat Thesz via a small package in 0:23:53
x time limit expired (Lesnar and Thesz) in 0:30:00
Lou Thesz suffered a neck injury. He will be out for approximately 5 cards.
Rating: *** 3/4

Iron Man Match:
Osamu Nishimura beat Chris Benoit 3 falls to 2:
x Nishimura beat Benoit via the Northern Lights Suplex in 0:05:11
x Nishimura beat Benoit via the Northern Lights Suplex in 0:13:15
x Benoit beat Nishimura via a Northern Lights suplex in 0:17:59
x Nishimura beat Benoit via the Northern Lights Suplex in 0:22:36
x Benoit beat Nishimura via a figure-four leglock in 0:23:53
x time limit expired (Nishimura and Benoit) in 0:30:00
Rating: ** 3/4

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match:
Lou Thesz and Osamu Nishimura beat Chris Benoit and Brock Lesnar 2 falls to 1:
x Thesz beat Benoit via the Spinning Toe Hold in 0:13:18
x Lesnar beat Thesz via disqualification in 0:16:48
x Thesz beat Lesnar via the Spinning Toe Hold in 0:21:04
Rating: *** 1/4





Um Platz 5:
Slash vs. White Unicorn: 3:2 17 : 9

Iron Man Match:
The Rock beat Kurt Angle 3 falls to 1:
x The Rock beat K. Angle via an elbowdrop in 0:16:11
x K. Angle beat The Rock via the Ankle Lock in 0:20:48
x The Rock beat K. Angle via the Rock Bottom in 0:27:15
x The Rock beat K. Angle via the Rock Bottom in 0:29:18
x time limit expired (K. Angle and The Rock) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/2

Iron Man Match:
Christopher Daniels beat Rene Dupree 5 falls to 0:
x Daniels beat R. Dupree via the Last Rites in 0:14:41
x Daniels beat R. Dupree via the Last Rites in 0:19:01
x Daniels beat R. Dupree via a moonsault from the second turnbuckle in
0:21:01
x Daniels beat R. Dupree via the Last Rites in 0:23:51
x Daniels beat R. Dupree via the Last Rites in 0:26:22
x time limit expired (Daniels and R. Dupree) in 0:30:00
Rating: ** 3/4

Iron Man Match:
Kurt Angle beat Rene Dupree 5 falls to 2:
x K. Angle beat R. Dupree via a small package in 0:06:05
x K. Angle beat R. Dupree via the Ankle Lock in 0:10:42
x K. Angle beat R. Dupree via a gutwrench suplex in 0:16:25
x R. Dupree beat K. Angle via disqualification in 0:17:02
x K. Angle beat R. Dupree via the Angle Slam in 0:18:00
x K. Angle beat R. Dupree via a German suplex in 0:23:44
x R. Dupree beat K. Angle via the French Riviera in 0:27:59
x time limit expired (K. Angle and R. Dupree) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/2

Iron Man Match:
Chrstopher Daniels beat The Rock 7 falls to 2:
x Daniels beat The Rock via the Last Rites in 0:05:25
x The Rock beat Daniels via the Rock Bottom in 0:09:06
x Daniels beat The Rock via the Last Rites in 0:13:11
x Daniels beat The Rock via a Small Package in 0:16:05
x Daniels beat The Rock via Disqualification in 0:18:02
x Daniels beat The Rock via the Last Rites in 0:20:29
x The Rock beat Daniels via a spinebuster slam in 0:23:09
x Daniels beat The Rock via the Last Rites in 0:27:45
x Daniels beat The Rock via the Last Rites in 0:29:42
x time limit expired (The Rock and Daniels) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/4

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match:
Rene Dupree and The Rock beat Kurt Angle and Christopher Daniels 2 falls to 1:
x The Rock beat K. Angle via the Rock Bottom in 0:01:20
x K. Angle beat The Rock via disqualification in 0:08:52
x The Rock beat Daniels via the Rock Bottom in 0:20:45
Rating: *** 3/4



Damit sehen die Plätze 5-10 folgendermaßen aus:

5.Slash
6.White Unicorn
7.Nefercheperur
8.Psycho
9.Chokeslam
10.Hitman

[Chokeslam]

Endlich mal gewonnen! (8)

[DiViNo]

boah bei mir und nefi war wohl mal echt böses blut,sonst hät lesnar wohl nicht thesz sein nacken gecruncht... ;)

[RDLA]

Halbfinale

Während das erste Halbfinale noch recht deutlich war, so wurde das zweite Halbfinale erst im letzten Fall entschieden.


Mephisto vs. Sharkbiy 4:1 20 : 9


Iron Man Match:
Triple H beat Chris Hero 4 falls to 2:
x Triple H beat Hero via the Pedigree in 0:12:28
x Triple H beat Hero via the Pedigree in 0:13:53
x Triple H beat Hero via the Pedigree in 0:14:48
x Hero beat Triple H via a swinging Soviet suplex into a backbreaker
in 0:15:25
x Hero beat Triple H via disqualification in 0:20:24
x Triple H beat Hero via an abdominal stretch in 0:26:30
x time limit expired (Hero and Triple H) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/4

Iron Man Match:
Kid Kash beat Super Dragon 4 falls to 2:
x Kash beat S. Dragon via the Money In The Bank in 0:09:45
x Kash beat S. Dragon via a Frankensteiner from the top rope in
0:15:04
x S. Dragon beat Kash via a spinning backbreaker in 0:17:19
x Kash beat S. Dragon via the Money In The Bank in 0:21:28
x S. Dragon beat Kash via the 450 Splash in 0:22:26
x Kash beat S. Dragon via the Money In The Bank in 0:25:55
x time limit expired (S. Dragon and Kash) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 3/4

Iron Man Match:
Triple H beat Super Dragon 7 falls to 1:
x Triple H beat S. Dragon via the Pedigree in 0:00:24
x Triple H beat S. Dragon via the Pedigree in 0:03:43
x Triple H beat S. Dragon via the Pedigree in 0:07:21
x Triple H beat S. Dragon via the Pedigree in 0:11:38
x Triple H beat S. Dragon via the Pedigree in 0:14:59
x Triple H beat S. Dragon via the Pedigree in 0:18:47
x Triple H beat S. Dragon via the Pedigree in 0:22:41
x S. Dragon beat Triple H via disqualification in 0:28:00
x time limit expired (Triple H and S. Dragon) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/2

Iron Man Match:
Chris Hero beat Kid Kash 4 falls to 3:
x Hero beat Kash via the Hero's Welcome in 0:04:30
x Hero beat Kash via countout in 0:09:21
x Kash beat Hero via the Money In The Bank in 0:13:37
x Hero beat Kash via the Hero's Welcome in 0:17:29
x Kash beat Hero via the Money In The Bank in 0:21:20
x Kash beat Hero via the Money In The Bank in 0:25:21
x Hero beat Kash via the Hero's Welcome in 0:27:19
x time limit expired (Kash and Hero) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/2

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match:
Triple H and Kid Kash beat Chris Hero and Super Dragon 2 falls to 0:
x Kash beat Hero via a moonsault bodyblock in 0:02:08
x Kash beat Hero via a Frankensteiner from the top rope in 0:10:14
Rating: ****


Snowder vs. RDLA 3:2 16:15


Iron Man Match:
Steve Austin beat Hiroshi Tanahashi 4 falls to 2:
x S. Austin beat Tanahashi via the Stone Cold Stunner in 0:11:05
x S. Austin beat Tanahashi via a spinebuster slam in 0:13:39
x S. Austin beat Tanahashi via the Stone Cold Stunner in 0:18:50
x S. Austin beat Tanahashi via the Stone Cold Stunner in 0:20:17
x Tanahashi beat S. Austin via the German Suplex in 0:24:17
x Tanahashi beat S. Austin via the German Suplex in 0:28:33
x time limit expired (Tanahashi and S. Austin) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/4

Iron Man Match:
The Undertaker beat Shinjiro Ohtani 4 falls to 3:
x Ohtani beat Undertaker via a dragon suplex in 0:00:25
x Ohtani beat Undertaker via a dragon suplex in 0:09:10
x Undertaker beat Ohtani via the Last Ride in 0:18:32
x Undertaker beat Ohtani via a powerslam in 0:21:57
x Undertaker beat Ohtani via the Last Ride in 0:24:54
x Ohtani beat Undertaker via a dragon suplex in 0:25:31
x Undertaker beat Ohtani via the Last Ride in 0:28:56
x time limit expired (Ohtani and Undertaker) in 0:30:00
Rating: ****

Iron Man Match:
Shinjiro Ohtani beat Steve Austin 4 falls to 3:
x Ohtani beat S. Austin via the Spiral Bomb in 0:08:18
x S. Austin beat Ohtani via countout in 0:08:52
x S. Austin beat Ohtani via a back suplex in 0:12:18
x S. Austin beat Ohtani via the Stone Cold Stunner in 0:17:55
x Ohtani beat S. Austin via the Spiral Bomb in 0:23:51
x Ohtani beat S. Austin via the Spiral Bomb in 0:25:36
x Ohtani beat S. Austin via the Spiral Bomb in 0:28:20
x time limit expired (Ohtani and S. Austin) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/4

Iron Man Match:
Hiroshi Tanahashi beat The Undertaker 5 falls to 3:
x Tanahashi beat Undertaker via the German Suplex in 0:05:10
x Tanahashi beat Undertaker via the German Suplex in 0:06:23
x Tanahashi beat Undertaker via the German Suplex in 0:10:37
x Tanahashi beat Undertaker via the German Suplex in 0:15:23
x Undertaker beat Tanahashi via the Last Ride in 0:20:11
x Undertaker beat Tanahashi via the Last Ride in 0:22:13
x Undertaker beat Tanahashi via the Last Ride in 0:27:25
x Tanahashi beat Undertaker via the German Suplex in 0:29:04
x time limit expired (Tanahashi and Undertaker) in 0:30:00
Rating: *** 1/2

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match:
Steve Austin and The Undertaker beat Hiroshi Tanahashi and Shinjiro Ohtani 2
falls to 1:
x Ohtani beat S. Austin via the Spiral Bomb in 0:07:34
x S. Austin beat Tanahashi via the Stone Cold Stunner in 0:13:26
x Undertaker beat Tanahashi via the Last Ride in 0:15:15
Rating: ****



Wenn ihr nun denkt, dass dies spannend war, solltet ihr erst mal auf das Finale warten. Dort trifft Mephisto auf Snowder, während im Match um Platz 3 Sharkboy auf RDLA trifft.

Morgen oder Freitag morgen wird es dann Finale und Match um Platz 3 geben.

[DiViNo]

jetzt ist es raus! RDLA ist eindeutig unparteisch , sonst wüssten wir wer im Finale steht ... der selbige ... oder hat rdla etwa angst vor dem achsomächtigen allheiligen SNOWDER!!!
das hät bestimmt nen ban gegeben bei nem sieg für dich ...

kommt mir eh spanisch vor das snow mit den typischen wwe - krüppeln siegt gegen diese japanischen kamikazekampfgranaten ;)

[RDLA]

Austin ist bei TNM wirklich gut. Da kann man nicht meckern. Ich war in der Vorrunde ein wenig enttäuschter über die Ergebnisse meiner Japaner. Vor allem Tanahashi hat bei TNM bei mir bisher nur gegen die großen TNM'ler verloren. Vor Snowder habe ich aber dann doch keine Angst. ;)