24.03.2007, 23:32
Nachdem Todd Fedoruk Knockout am Mittwoch gibt es nun Diskussionen in der NHL ueber das Fighting. NHL Vice President Colin Campbell will jedenfalls eine Debatte beginnen wie man das Fighting in Zukunft behandeln wird, gegenueber der Canadian Press meinte er“I think it's time to ask the question. I think you have to ask the question because of what's happening out there. It's incumbent on me, because of my position, to ask the question.”
Und weiter meinte Campbell:”I'm not afraid now to talk about the fact that we should look at fighting in hockey.I think if you discussed this even three or four years ago you would have got pooh-poohed out of the game. But now I think because of the size of our players, where we're at in sports and in life, I think we have to look at it.”
Phoenix Coyotes Spieler Jeremy Roenick vertritt dagegen die andere Ansicht:”I think you're going to lose fans. As much as I hate to say it - because you'd like to think everybody comes to see the exciting players do their thing - but there's a large amount of people who love the physical, tough aspect of our sport. And fighting is a favourite of a lot of people. Would it kill me (to have fighting banned)? No. . I wouldn't mind not seeing it, I don't like to see anybody get hurt. But as far as selling tickets, there's a large group of people who enjoy the fights.
Roenick duerfte die Mehrheit der Meinungen vertretten, Campbell bringt jedoch ein gutes Argument das die heutigen Spieler physisch staerker und groesser sind als frueher, und somit auch mehr Schlagwirkung haben:“You take a Tiger Williams, you take a Dave Shultz, or even a Bob Probert of the '90s, and you pit them against our players today - our players today are much bigger and stronger and more well-conditioned.”
Buffalo Sabres Head Coach Lindy Ruff stimmt dem zu:“I think there is truth to that, that they are a lot bigger and lot stronger. We've seen some KO punches that you wonder if the guy is ever going to get up. I've never even approached the idea that it would be banned, but I think there is some reality when you see scenes like a guy getting hit with a bare fist from a guy that weighs maybe 215-220, he throws one heck of a punch now.”
Auch Keith Primeau hat die selbe Meinung:”When I came into the league in 1990, I could fight most guys. But in the last seven, eight years, there were guys there was no way I was going to drop my gloves with. Because they were in a position to be able to hurt you.”
Colin Campbell stellt deshalb die Frage:“Guys being carried off on stretchers was never a common occurrence. It's happened too many times already this year. I think we have to ask the question, is the risk worth it? Is this part of the game worth it?”
Jeremy Roenick bringt jedoch einen wichtigen Punkt ebenfalls vor:”I worry about what would happen if there wasn't a way to let out the frustration with a fight. Because let's face it, there is absolutely no respect in the game any more, with the way guys are taking runs at people and with the cheap shots and the late hits. Guys are getting hurt. If you take fighting out all of a sudden these guys are going to take even more liberties because they don't have to be accountable for themselves. I think somebody is going to get hurt more from a vicious hit from a guy not being worried that he has to drop his gloves and get his ass kicked.”
Und Keith Primeau stimmt dem zu:”It has to go hand in hand.If you're going to outlaw fighting, you absolutely have to outlaw any kind of stick infraction. So if you're saying, for example, that fighting is a 10-, 15- or 20-game suspension, then a reviewable high stick has to automatically be a 10-, 15- or 20-game suspension. Because sticks are just going to get higher when guys know there is no recourse or retribution.”
Der betroffene Todd Fedoruk selbst hat eine ganz andere Variante ins Spiel gebracht, Fedoruk schlug vor das man die Spieler Gloves aendert, und somit die Spieler mehr schuetzt, so in der Art der UFC:“You look at extreme fighting (UFC), they've got those four-ounce gloves on.If you want to change something, do something to lessen the blow. If it takes a three-ounce glove or something like that, that role players have to wear which would only cover the knuckle part, maybe that's something you can do. But I just don't think you can take fighting out of the game.”
Und weiter zu den MMA Fightern meinte Fedoruk:”They're trained fighters and a lot of the NHL guys are trained fighters. I myself do a lot of training in the off-season that has to do with fighting. If they (the NHL) think too many bad things are happening to us, maybe that's a solution. But taking fighting out of the game is definitely not a solution. You just can't do it. It's ingrained in the roots of hockey.”
Was denkt ihr darueber?
Anmerkung: Ich finde Fedoruk`s Vorschlag ziemlich gut. Man kann das fighten nicht aus dem Hockey verbannen, das ist Tradition, das ist Teil des Spiels, und das waere keine Loesung. Denn die Aggresivitaet einiger Spieler wuerde sich dann wie bei Chris Simon auessern. Nichts tun sollte man auch nicht, denn da gebe ich Campbell wiederum recht, die heutigen Spieler sind viel groesser und kraeftiger wie frueher. Daher waere der Vorschlug von Fedoruk die MMA Gloves einzufuehren garnichtmal so schlecht.
Und weiter meinte Campbell:”I'm not afraid now to talk about the fact that we should look at fighting in hockey.I think if you discussed this even three or four years ago you would have got pooh-poohed out of the game. But now I think because of the size of our players, where we're at in sports and in life, I think we have to look at it.”
Phoenix Coyotes Spieler Jeremy Roenick vertritt dagegen die andere Ansicht:”I think you're going to lose fans. As much as I hate to say it - because you'd like to think everybody comes to see the exciting players do their thing - but there's a large amount of people who love the physical, tough aspect of our sport. And fighting is a favourite of a lot of people. Would it kill me (to have fighting banned)? No. . I wouldn't mind not seeing it, I don't like to see anybody get hurt. But as far as selling tickets, there's a large group of people who enjoy the fights.
Roenick duerfte die Mehrheit der Meinungen vertretten, Campbell bringt jedoch ein gutes Argument das die heutigen Spieler physisch staerker und groesser sind als frueher, und somit auch mehr Schlagwirkung haben:“You take a Tiger Williams, you take a Dave Shultz, or even a Bob Probert of the '90s, and you pit them against our players today - our players today are much bigger and stronger and more well-conditioned.”
Buffalo Sabres Head Coach Lindy Ruff stimmt dem zu:“I think there is truth to that, that they are a lot bigger and lot stronger. We've seen some KO punches that you wonder if the guy is ever going to get up. I've never even approached the idea that it would be banned, but I think there is some reality when you see scenes like a guy getting hit with a bare fist from a guy that weighs maybe 215-220, he throws one heck of a punch now.”
Auch Keith Primeau hat die selbe Meinung:”When I came into the league in 1990, I could fight most guys. But in the last seven, eight years, there were guys there was no way I was going to drop my gloves with. Because they were in a position to be able to hurt you.”
Colin Campbell stellt deshalb die Frage:“Guys being carried off on stretchers was never a common occurrence. It's happened too many times already this year. I think we have to ask the question, is the risk worth it? Is this part of the game worth it?”
Jeremy Roenick bringt jedoch einen wichtigen Punkt ebenfalls vor:”I worry about what would happen if there wasn't a way to let out the frustration with a fight. Because let's face it, there is absolutely no respect in the game any more, with the way guys are taking runs at people and with the cheap shots and the late hits. Guys are getting hurt. If you take fighting out all of a sudden these guys are going to take even more liberties because they don't have to be accountable for themselves. I think somebody is going to get hurt more from a vicious hit from a guy not being worried that he has to drop his gloves and get his ass kicked.”
Und Keith Primeau stimmt dem zu:”It has to go hand in hand.If you're going to outlaw fighting, you absolutely have to outlaw any kind of stick infraction. So if you're saying, for example, that fighting is a 10-, 15- or 20-game suspension, then a reviewable high stick has to automatically be a 10-, 15- or 20-game suspension. Because sticks are just going to get higher when guys know there is no recourse or retribution.”
Der betroffene Todd Fedoruk selbst hat eine ganz andere Variante ins Spiel gebracht, Fedoruk schlug vor das man die Spieler Gloves aendert, und somit die Spieler mehr schuetzt, so in der Art der UFC:“You look at extreme fighting (UFC), they've got those four-ounce gloves on.If you want to change something, do something to lessen the blow. If it takes a three-ounce glove or something like that, that role players have to wear which would only cover the knuckle part, maybe that's something you can do. But I just don't think you can take fighting out of the game.”
Und weiter zu den MMA Fightern meinte Fedoruk:”They're trained fighters and a lot of the NHL guys are trained fighters. I myself do a lot of training in the off-season that has to do with fighting. If they (the NHL) think too many bad things are happening to us, maybe that's a solution. But taking fighting out of the game is definitely not a solution. You just can't do it. It's ingrained in the roots of hockey.”
Was denkt ihr darueber?
Anmerkung: Ich finde Fedoruk`s Vorschlag ziemlich gut. Man kann das fighten nicht aus dem Hockey verbannen, das ist Tradition, das ist Teil des Spiels, und das waere keine Loesung. Denn die Aggresivitaet einiger Spieler wuerde sich dann wie bei Chris Simon auessern. Nichts tun sollte man auch nicht, denn da gebe ich Campbell wiederum recht, die heutigen Spieler sind viel groesser und kraeftiger wie frueher. Daher waere der Vorschlug von Fedoruk die MMA Gloves einzufuehren garnichtmal so schlecht.